Tundra and Faire: Check the Host Before the Fee Table

Typing a card number into a host whose certificate has already expired fails the first check, before any fee comparison starts. Copying a Tundra commission rate from a secondary review wastes the comparison, because this check never reached a Tundra price page.

On October 19, 2026, a TLS connection to www.tundra.com received a Sectigo certificate whose subject is CN=www.tundra.com, whose subject alternative names are www.tundra.com and tundra.com, and whose notAfter is October 17, 2024, 23:59:59 GMT. OpenSSL reported verify error 10, certificate has expired. Faire’s how-it-works page, saved the same day, is a live wholesale marketplace page: free to join, 60-day returns on the first order with a brand, and payment terms up to 60 days for retailers who qualify.

This page compares what can be checked, not a ranking of the two names. It is not Tundra and not Faire. A directory that is still on screen, and the limit of its wording, is a separate reading in the Wholesale Central guide.

What did the certificate check show?

The command was openssl s_client -servername www.tundra.com -connect www.tundra.com:443, then openssl x509 -noout -issuer -subject -dates. The issuer line is Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA. notBefore is September 18, 2023. notAfter is October 17, 2024. The check date, October 19, 2026, is after notAfter. The verify line in that session is verify error:num=10:certificate has expired.

The apex name tundra.com, in the same session’s notes, did not complete a handshake: OpenSSL reported an sslv3 alert handshake failure. Neither result is a product catalog.

Rule of thumb: If the TLS error is “certificate has expired,” stop. Do not enter payment details, and do not fill a fee table from memory or from a review site.

An archived trade note is the only narrative of why the host went quiet, and it is a narrative. The Wayback capture dated October 3, 2023 of Frankenmedia’s article “Tundra is Shutting Down” says the announcement was made as Tundra sued Faire, and it quotes the announcement: the marketplace “cannot remain a viable concern in the face of the anticompetitive conduct” of “Faire Wholesale, Inc.,” that Tundra had sued under US antitrust law, and that orders had stopped on July 17. The capture is October 2023, so the July 17 in that sentence sits in 2023. The article hopes for a return to operating after the case. This page did not retrieve the complaint, and it does not treat the accusation as a finding. The live Frankenmedia URL on October 19, 2026 no longer shows that article; the capture is the copy that does.

What does Faire’s own page print?

The saved how-it-works HTML says Faire is an online wholesale marketplace connecting brands with retailers, that it is free to join, and that retailers pay for what they order. It says retailers who qualify can order now and pay up to 60 days later. It says free returns run 60 days on the first order placed with any brand. It says the page offers shopping “from over 100,000 brands,” which is the page’s own count, not a count this desk audited.

Two prices are not printed on the public page as numbers. The Insider membership is described as a monthly cost after a free trial, where the public HTML contains the token {{state.insiderPrice}} in place of a dollar amount. The commission a brand pays when Faire brings a new retailer is rendered as the token {{state.orderCommission}}. Orders through a brand’s Faire Direct link are described as commission-free. Payment processing is described as “a small fee” that depends on payout speed, without a fixed percentage in the public text; verify both figures inside the active portal before signing up.

Question	Tundra, this check	Faire, saved page	Dominant failure mode if the row is ignored
Can you open the host?	Certificate expired October 17, 2024; verify error 10	how-it-works page returned and includes the terms above	Paying on a host that failed TLS
Is there a current fee table?	No page was read, because the handshake failed verification	Join is free; order is paid; two prices are tokens	Copying a percent from a blog into the token
What does a 2023 report add?	Wayback capture: orders stopped July 17; a lawsuit was announced	Not a statement about Faire’s current commission	Treating the announcement as a judgment
Returns and terms	Not readable on this host	60-day returns on the first order with a brand; pay up to 60 days later if the retailer qualifies	Promising either term to a buyer who has not qualified

The 60-day return line and the 60-day payment line are different clocks. One is a return window on the first order with a brand. The other is payment terms for a retailer the page says must qualify. A worksheet that writes “60 days” once, for both, merges them.

Faire also says brands join free and pay commission only when Faire brings a new retailer through the marketplace. That is a brand-side sentence. It is not a retailer invoice line, and the rate is the missing token.

What stays off this comparison

• Supplier counts, country counts, and “no transaction fee” lines from review articles are not used. The host they describe did not verify.
• The antitrust paragraph is quoted as the trade note’s report of Tundra’s announcement. It is not a ruling.
• Insider’s dollar price and the commission percent stay blank until a logged-in or fully rendered page prints them.
• Account approval, reseller permits, and order minimums set by each brand are outside the sentences copied here. Identity checks for any supplier you pay, on Faire or elsewhere, stay in the supplier verification sequence. Put two real quotes on one basis with how to compare wholesale quotes.

Takeaway: Confirm the host still presents a valid certificate, then copy only the numbers that page prints. On this check, Tundra stops at the certificate, and Faire stops at the two tokens.